SoulSavvi Soul Plan Readings

I did not realize when I posted the ‘Alien Interview’ (written in 1947) that I was posting quite what I have now come to read fully, and as it takes some hours to read (especially if you’re a slow reader like me) I have made this post for quotes and thoughts about the information given for those that do not have the time to spare but wish to find out more.

This ‘story’ and the information contained within turns on its head many fundamental concepts that humans have laid store by for yonks – religion, Darwinian ‘evolution’ (or not) of man, Annunaki, the Universe, civilizations, history of earth (going way back way yonder…), pyramids, Egyptians, the Bible, Ten Commandments, Nicola Tesla, sexual reproduction and so much more…..and in a way that frankly sounds like a science fiction movie. In fact many will think this is just that, or a hoax. It could be…I mean, the alien was able to absorb vast numbers of books and information (like a computer) so who’s to say she couldn’t have computed a fantastic story like this.

And yet…some/much of it makes sense and the alien’s account and information seem to be pretty pragmatic and honest – for eg, she states categorically her people (The Domain) are not interested in helping humans directly, but are interested in ensuring the sustainability of the planet – now, that’s not too great to hear but at least it’s honest (in contrast to channelled messages that, in comparison, seem pretty hyped up). In fact on this point (of comparison) the alien, Airl, says Earth is a remote prison planet at the edge of the galaxy and good for not too much as it is physically unstable, whereas channelled messages say Earth is a most pivotal and important planet in the universe and we’re all priveleged to be here and that it’s like a football pitch full of ET spectators watching eagerly and a queue of beings who want to be born here. So which view is correct…Certainly one difference between this account and many channelled messages is the level of detail provided in this interview, which can usually indicate truth, whereas lies tend to lack detail…

Anyway, many questions are raised and some you may feel are answered. Here are some quotes I copied down for this post with [comments in brackets], and below that, a few questions and observations. Enjoy. (It’s long!)


Immortal Spiritual Beings, which I refer to as “IS-BEs”, for the sake of convenience, are the source and creators of illusions. Each one, individually and collectively, in their original, unfettered state of being, are an eternal, all-powerful, all-knowing entity…IS-BEs are not physical universe entities. They are a source of energy and illusion. IS-BEs are not located in space or time, but can create space, place particles in space, create energy, and shape particles into various forms, cause the motion of forms, and animate
forms. Any form that is animated by an IS-BE is called life….A common denominator of IS-BEs seems to be the desire to avoid boredom. A spirit only, without interaction with
other IS-BEs, and the unpredictable motion, drama, and unanticipated intentions and illusions being created by other IS-BEs, is easily bored.

What if you could imagine anything, perceive everything, and cause anything to happen, at will? What if you couldn’t do anything else? What if you always knew the outcome of every game and the answer to every question? Would you get bored?…There is no measurable “beginning” or “end” for an IS-BE. They simply exist in an everlasting now….IS-BEs diminish their ability in order to have a game to play. IS-BEs think that any game is better than no game. They will endure pain, suffering, stupidity, privation, and all manner of unnecessary and undesirable conditions, just to play a game. Pretending that one does not know all, see all and cause all, is a way to create the conditions necessary for playing a game: unknowns, freedoms, barriers and/or opponents and goals. Ultimately, playing a game solves the problem of boredom.

Every IS-BE is basically good. Therefore, an IS-BE does not enjoy doing things to other IS-BEs which they themselves do not want to experience. For an IS-BE there is no inherent standard for what is good or bad, right or wrong, ugly or beautiful. These ideas are all based on the opinion of each individual IS-BE. The closest concept that human beings have to describe an IS-BE is as a god: all-knowing, all-powerful, infinite. So, how does a god stop being a god? They pretend NOT to know. How can you play a game of “hide and seek” if you always know where the other person is hiding? You pretend NOT to know where the other players are hiding, so you can go off to “seek” them. This is how games are created. You have forgotten that you are just “pretending”. In so doing, IS-BEs become entrapped and enslaved inside a maze of their own devising. How does one create a cage, lock one’s own self inside the cage, throw away the key, and forget there is a key or a cage, and forget there is an “inside” or “outside”, and even forget there is a self? Create the illusion that there is no illusion: the entire universe is real, and that no other universe exists or can be created. On Earth, the propaganda taught and agreed upon is that the gods are responsible, and that human beings are not responsible. You are taught that only a god can create universes. So, the responsibility for every action is assigned to another IS-BE or god. Never oneself. No human being ever assumes personal responsibility for the fact that they, themselves — individually and collectively — are gods. This fact alone is the source of entrapment for every IS-BE.

You asked me earlier why The Domain, and other space civilizations do not land on Earth or make their presence known. Land on Earth? Do you think we are crazy or want to be crazy? It takes a very brave IS-BE to come down through the atmosphere and land on Earth, because this is a prison planet, with a very uncontrolled, psychotic population.

Although The Domain has a long term interest in maintaining Earth as a useful planet, it has no particular interest in the human population of Earth, other than its own personnel here. [Cheers, mate]

…the notion that human biological organisms evolved naturally from earlier ape-like forms is incorrect. No physical evidence will ever be uncovered to substantiate the notion that modern humanoid bodies evolved on this planet…Factually, humanoid bodies have existed in various forms throughout the universe for trillions of years.

The truth is that every single IS-BE on Earth came to Earth from some other planetary system. Not one person on Earth is a “native” inhabitant. Human beings did not “evolve” on Earth.

A computer is an electronic device that serves as an artificial “brain” or complex calculating machine. It is capable of storing information, making computations, solving problems and performing mechanical functions. In most of the galactic systems of the universe, very large computers are commonly used to run the routine administration, mechanical services and maintenance activities of an entire planet or planetary system. [Bill Gates of the ‘Old Empire’?]

Airl mentioned that the most significant breakthrough was made by Gautama Siddhartha about 2,500 years ago. [Yay, love the Buddha]

…The engineer, in a previous lifetime on Earth, was Suleiman The Magnificent. His assistant was a harem girl who rose up from slavery to become his wife and rule the Ottoman empire with him. Simultaneously, she inhabited another body and ruled her own empire as Queen Elizabeth. As the Queen of England, she never married, because she was already married to the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire!

If humanity is to survive, it must cooperate to find effective solutions to the difficult conditions of your existence on Earth. Humanity must rise above its human form and discover where they are, and that they are IS-BEs, and who they really are as IS-BEs in order to transcend the notion that they are merely biological bodies. Once these realizations have been made, it may be possible to escape your current imprisonment. Otherwise, there will be no future for the IS-BEs on Earth.

The men who run the criminal governments of Earth mirror the commands given them by covert thought-controllers of the “Old Empire”.

A majority of the Templars fled to Switzerland where they established an international banking system which secretly controls the economy of Earth…The purpose of the senseless genocide and carnage of wars financed by these international banks is to prevent the IS-BEs of Earth from sharing open communication, cooperate together in activities that might enable IS-BEs to prosper, become enlightened, and escape their imprisonment.

What you see now on Earth is the huge variety of life forms left behind. Your scientists believe that the fallacious “theory of evolution” is an explanation for the existence of all the life forms here. The truth is that all life forms on this and any other planet in this universe were created by companies like ours…The current “theory of evolution” of life forms on Earth does not consider the phenomena of biological diversity. Evolution by natural selection is science fiction. One species does not accidentally, or randomly evolve to become another species, as the Earth textbooks indicate, without manipulation of genetic material by an IS-BE…Without active intervention by IS-BEs, biological organisms rarely change…The development of an animal like the ‘duck-billed platypus’ required a lot of very clever engineering to combine the body of a beaver with the bill of a duck and make a mammal that lays eggs. Undoubtedly, some wealthy client placed a “special order” for it as a gift or curious amusement. I am sure the laboratory of some biotechnical company worked on it for years to make it a self-replicating life form!…The greatest technical challenge of biological organisms was the invention of self-regeneration, or sexual reproduction. It was invented as the solution to the problem of having to continually manufacture replacement creatures for those that had been destroyed and eaten by other creatures. Planetary governments did not want to keep buying replacement animals. [So what does this mean for Tantra…]

Science is the religion of matter. It worships matter. The paradigm of science is that creation is all, and the creator is nothing. Religion says the creator is all, and the creation is nothing. These two extremes are the bars of a prison cell. They prevent observation of all phenomenon as an interactive whole. Study of creation without knowing the IS-BE, the source of creation, is futile.

Do not rely on the dogma of physical sciences to master the fundamental forces of creation any more than you would trust the chanted incantations of an incense-burning shaman. The net result of both of these is entrapment and oblivion. Scientists pretend to observe, but they only suppose that they see, and call it fact. Like the blind man, a scientist can not learn to see until he realizes that he is blind. The “facts” of Earth science do not include the source of creation. They include only the result, or byproducts of creation.
The “facts” of science to not include any memory of the nearly infinite past experience of existence. The essence of creation and existence cannot be found through the lens of a microscope or telescope or by any other measurement of the physical universe. One cannot comprehend the perfume of a flower or the pain felt by an abandoned lover with meters and calipers. Everything you will ever know about the creative force and ability of a god can be found within you — an Immortal Spiritual Being.

Therefore, do not look to scientists to save Earth or the future of humanity. Any so-called “science” that is solely based on the paradigm that existence is composed only of energy and objects moving through space is not a science. Such beings utterly ignore the creative spark originated by an individual IS-BE and collective work of the IS-BEs who continually create the physical universe and all universes. Every science will remain relatively ineffective or destructive to the degree that it omits or devaluates the relative importance of the spiritual spark that ignites all of creation and life.

The true geniuses of civilization are those IS-BEs who will enable other IS-BEs to recover their memory and regain self-realization and self-determination. This issue is not solved through enforcing moral regulation on behavior, or through the control of beings through mystery, faith, drugs, guns or any other dogma of a slave society.

The survival of Earth and every being on it depends on the ability to recover the memory of skills you have accrued through the trillenia; to recover the essence of yourself….Neither has such technology ever been developed by The Domain. [Could the Light Chambers be this technology??? If so why is this amnesia trip not mentioned in those particular messages mentioning the chambers…]

A few officers of The Domain Expeditionary Force have taken it upon themselves to provide technology to Earth during their off duty time. These officers leave their “doll” at the space station and, as an IS-BE, assume or take over a biological body on Earth. In some cases an officer can remain on duty while they inhabit and control other bodies at the same time…This is a very dangerous and adventurous undertaking. It requires a very able IS-BE to accomplish such a mission, and return to base successfully. One officer who did this recently, while continuing to attend to his official duties, was known on Earth as the electronics inventor, Nicola Tesla.

There are no “saints” in this universe. Very few have avoided or been exempted from warfare between IS-BEs. [Much more acceptable viewpoint than hyping up other beings, sentient or not, as if they’re better than oneself. Indeed I am sure that we have all (the vast majority) been murderers, rapists, robbers and other unsavoury characters in past lives in the process of balancing our karmic creations. The point here is that we should not put others on a pedestal for it impacts our own soul and keeps us thinking small which hinders our own self-realization.]

The so-called “civilizations” of Earth, from the age of useless pyramids to the age of nuclear holocaust, have been a colossal waste of natural resources, a perverted use of intelligence, and an overt oppression of the spiritual essence of every single IS-BE on the planet…If The Domain sent ships to every corner of the universe in search of “Hell”, their quest could end on Earth. [Grrrreat….] What greater brutality can be inflicted on anyone than to erase the spiritual awareness, identity, ability, and memory that is the essence of oneself?

Every speck of dust in space, from the size of the tiniest subatomic particle, to the size of a sun or a magelantic cloud the size of many galaxies, was created from the nothingness of a thought. Even the tiniest, individual cells were contrived and coordinated to enable a microbial entity to sense, and navigate through infinitesimally small spaces. These also came from an idea thought up by an IS-BE…You, and every IS-BE on Earth, have participated in the creation of this universe. Even though you are now confined to a fragile body made of flesh; you live for only 65 short rotations of your planet around a star; you have been given overwhelming electric shock treatments to wipe out your memory; you must learn everything all over again each lifetime; in spite of all these circumstances, you are who you are and will always be. And, deep down, you still know that your are and what you know. You are still the essence of you. How else can one understand the child prodigy? An IS-BE who plays concertos on a piano at three years of age, without formal training? Impossible, if they did not simply remember what they have already learned from thousands of lives spent in front of a keyboard in times untold, or on planets far away. They may not know how they know. They just know.

…They invented a “scientific theory” to use as a promotion gimmick. The theory was that all creatures needed to have “food” as a source of energy. Before that, none of the life forms being manufactured required any external energy. Animals did not eat other animals for food, but consumed sunlight, minerals or vegetable matter only. [NB: sungazing]

The name of the company roughly translated into English would be “Bugs & Blossoms” ….Of course, “Bugs & Blossoms” went into the business of designing and manufacturing carnivores. Before long, so many animals were being eaten as food that the problem of replenishing them became very difficult. As a ‘solution’, “Bugs & Blossoms” proposed, with the help of some strategically placed bribes in high places, that other companies begin using ‘sexual reproduction’ as the basis for replenishing life-forms. “Bugs & Blossoms” was the first company to develop blueprints for sexual reproduction, of course…This led to the corruption and downfall of the entire industry. Ultimately, the ‘food and sex’ idea completely ruined the bio-technology industry, including “Bugs & Blossoms”. The entire industry faded away as the market for manufactured life forms disappeared. Consequently, when a species became extinct, there is no way to replace them because the technology of creating new life forms has been lost. Obviously, none of this technology was ever known on Earth, and probably never will be.


– No mention of Hollow Earth when Airl discusses Earth’s population….Says the Earth’s core is liquid: ‘liquid nature of its core’ – so liquid or hollow??

– Why no mention of this Domain in any channelled messages (that I have read anyway) or anywhere else??

– Why no mention of the GFL by Airl if the GFL is such an important group?

– Airl says the Domain is the Annunaki and they have been misrepresented??

– “The mineral resources of Earth are now a property of The Domain. 3172 BCE” – Hmmm…

– “There is a very highly regimented and fixed hierarchy or “class system” for all IS-BEs throughout the “Old Empire”” Hmmm again….It seems to be explained thus: “Ultimately the dwindling ability of IS-BEs to maintain a personal state of operational freedom and ability to create energy resulted in the vast and carefully guarded hierarchy or class system.”

– Observation – it would appear that the reason why Airl does not talk about God / Source etc is because she knew/knows her own abilities as a creator, as that God, as that Source, and isn’t this how one would be had one opened up to fuller multi-dimensional creator abilities in oneself? I mean, if you know by your actions and abilities you are God then it would not make sense to use the word God or Source etc because it would be like me saying to you eg ‘Reena is x, y or z’ which would be odd, instead one would simply say ‘I am x, y or z’ (simple example, hope you get the meaning). At present on this planet what we have is words like God, Divine Consiousness etc (despite any self-realization one may have experienced) because we (most of us) are as yet unable to manifest physical creations through thought due to whatever limitations we have due to being on this planet (Airl says it’s the amnesia trick).

– I was most surprised to hear what Airl said about the ‘useless pyramids’ – never, ever heard that before. Makes sense to me – about purposely creating mystery and mystique just to keep people confused and constantly searching to solve the mystery.

Here is the interview again:

Click Here To Read Interview

And here is the actual website for this interview:

Alien Interview Blog

Comments, as always, welcome.


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